Ubuntu Installation

topic posted Tue, December 4, 2007 - 6:30 AM by  Taliesin ap Lyn
any ideas as to the best place to go for advice on ubuntu installation? I'm wanting to migrate to Linux, but a fair amount of my productivity will depend on Windows while I get used to it. I tried installing Ubuntu before (as a dual OS set up) with disastrous effects... First, the OS harddrive was partitioned, but no Ubuntu installed (actually the disasters occured when I tried to correct the damage :-)

I don't know if the problem was that I have my OS on one harddrive and my data on another, which meant I got confused on the instructions when the Ubuntu disc was taking me through the partitioning stages? Having lost a chunk of data (yes, I did have verified backups... bloody external hard drive corrupted just when I didn't need it to :-( I am somewhat anxious about trying again

I know it can be done, I did it on my laptop !?!
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Taliesin ap Lyn
United Kingdom
  • Re: Ubuntu Installation

    Wed, December 5, 2007 - 10:22 AM
    Yeah if you're new to the joys of partitioning and dual-booting, you can get some interesting results. I had to start over more than once myself. From day one I have always had OS/software on one drive, and personal data/music/porn on a separate physical drive. When I work on my machine, the data drive gets UNPLUGGED.

    I had your exact problem. I got partitions mixed up, got confused on which drive was the one with the boot loader on it, etc. My current setup is essentially a workaround. I have three physical drives. Ubuntu, Windows, Data. The Ubuntu drive is the one that the BIOS boots first, and I manually put in the entry in GRUB to boot the Windows drive. It's kind of half-assed, but it works. I also know that if my Ubuntu drive is hosed, I can still use my Windows drive, and vice versa.

    You'll probably never get away from Windows. I need it to read data from my Palm Pilot, and use some of the special features. I also use it for Newsbin, which grabs binaries from newsgroups, and for Photoshop. I can do the basic synchronizing for my Palm Pilot with Evolution, and there's also Gimp for photo processing. Gimp works okay, but sometimes is quite frustrating for functions that are quick and easy with Photoshop. I haven't found a software that compares with Newsbin. There are some Gnome programs that pull binaries from newsgroups, but none that are equivalent to Newsbin.
    • Re: Ubuntu Installation

      Wed, December 5, 2007 - 10:25 AM
      I should have mentioned how I set up my current setup. I installed Ubuntu with the Windows drive disconnected, and then installed Windows with the Ubuntu drive disconnected. That's why I had to put the Windows boot option into my GRUB menu myself.

      Another problem I had was when Ubuntu sent down updates that recompiled the kernel. Each time it re-wrote my GRUB menu, and it took me a few tries to figure out how to get it to leave my changes alone.
  • Re: Ubuntu Installation

    Tue, December 25, 2007 - 9:58 PM
    Hiya,

    from what you describe, it shouldn't be too hard to get your primary drive to dual boot. For all practical purposes, you can ignore your data drive. As long as you don't accidently address it in the installation process (like you did last time), you have nothing to lose. Ubuntu and windows should both recognize it just fine, in theory.

    And if you have a separate drive for your OS, then the cleanest way to do it would be to reinstall both operating systems afresh. Install windows first. Install ubuntu second (create a new partition for it). This will automatically install grub and your boot loading menu. Then install your virus protection software and all your other windows software.

    But you don't have to reinstall windows if you don't want to. Just resize the partition and bear in mind my note below about the virus protection software:

    If you are running virus protection software while installing ubuntu, the virus protection software may notice the changes to the boot sectors, decide its a virus and wipe out the boot loading software. If you turn off the anti-virus services, do the installation, and then turn them back on it seems to work fine. This was my experience with Norton/Symantec anyway.

    But it's totally do-able and your system sounds like a good one to work as a dual boot box.

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